Bad Trader Report

[coreystinson]

The following people don't pay for the things they agree to buy:

conteaddict
cornbreadfred

[hworth18]

The following people don't pay for the things they agree to buy:

conteaddict
cornbreadfred

Sorry to see I am not the only one thats been stood up...

[coreystinson]

Sorry to see I am not the only one thats been stood up...

That's the way it always works I'm afraid, which is why it is good to spread the word around.

[YT]

Does this mean that those WC51s weapons carriers are still up for grabs? If they are, let me know...

[ostketten]

The following people don't pay for the things they agree to buy:

conteaddict
cornbreadfred

Duly noted. Thanks.

Sorry to see I am not the only one thats been stood up...

Unfortunately this kind of thing happens all the time around here, usually by people who are "just looking for a couple of things"

[Rowsdower]

This is why I rarely sell through BST and link to my Ebay auctions instead. Too many headaches and no real recourse if someone decides to screw you over.

[coreystinson]

Does this mean that those WC51s weapons carriers are still up for grabs? If they are, let me know...

Hi, sorry, no those did go to a regular here and are safely lodged in his collection now.

[skyraider]

Corey, just wondering. Did you contact Cornbread Fred and ask him what the problem is? I have had two dealings with him, and each time he went out of his way to get me what I wanted. Just wondering.

[coreystinson]

Corey, just wondering. Did you contact Cornbread Fred and ask him what the problem is? I have had two dealings with him, and each time he went out of his way to get me what I wanted. Just wondering.

No, I don't badger people to meet their promises and obligations.

In both of these cases the transaction amounts are so small that a) it's not worth my time to badger the other party for payment, and b) ridiculous anyway that they aren't paying as promised due to the small amount of money involved.

If there is some other explanation I am sure they can make the effort to explain it to me via PM or here on this thread.

[skyraider]

So let me see if I understand this. The item you were selling does not cost much, but you are willing to bring down Cornbread's reputation without even asking if he had a problem. If I was Fred, I would be pissed.

[flyboy_fx]

This is why I rarely sell through BST and link to my Ebay auctions instead. Too many headaches and no real recourse if someone decides to screw you over.

Thats why I would only deal with people that have been here a long time and get good feedback.

[tankduel]

I've had that happen here too, however since no loss is involved I don't think it's right to out them as bad traders; dorks maybe
Nev

[hworth18]

So let me see if I understand this. The item you were selling does not cost much, but you are willing to bring down Cornbread's reputation without even asking if he had a problem. If I was Fred, I would be pissed.

I had a deal with Cornbreadfred for a FM B-25, he told me he would mail out a money order on a Monday and it never came. I also tried contacting him with NO response. I had a similar problem with Saberfan which I think are one and the same person. Saberfan did the exact same thing to me on a couple of deals and supposedly they are "cousins".

What it comes down to is: Don't commit to buy something if you have no intention of paying for it.

[Rowsdower]

Thats why I would only deal with people that have been here a long time and get good feedback.

Yes, that is wise.

[vulgarvulture]

deleted.

[pickelhaube]

So let me see if I understand this. The item you were selling does not cost much, but you are willing to bring down Cornbread's reputation without even asking if he had a problem. If I was Fred, I would be pissed.

I had a deal with Cornbreadfred for a FM B-25, he told me he would mail out a money order on a Monday and it never came. I also tried contacting him with NO response. I had a similar problem with Saberfan which I think are one and the same person. Saberfan did the exact same thing to me on a couple of deals and supposedly they are "cousins".

What it comes down to is: Don't commit to buy something if you have no intention of paying for it.

I really do not know about your dealings.

But Sabrefan's cancer may have come back. I do not think that he would back off a deal on purpase.

His tie with Cornbread I do not know.But both of them hail from my fair state.

[Dauntless]

Well I haven't bought anything from anybody here yet, but I would assume in any transaction, you don't send the item out till payment is made, then if they don't like it, they can send the item back for a full refund, minus shipping charges.
Give or take a little negotiation for small damages the buyer is willing to live with and keep the item..

Trades I don't know, that's a thing you need a little more trust with and knowing the person you are trading with.

Some people around this forum are fixtures here and their reputations are well known, and something to be proud of never tarnishing.

[coreystinson]

So let me see if I understand this. The item you were selling does not cost much, but you are willing to bring down Cornbread's reputation without even asking if he had a problem. If I was Fred, I would be pissed.

If you were Fred, you wouldn't pay for the stuff you ordered.

[Fritzkrieg]

Corey,

Don't you thinking being so aggressive, and outing these guys without so much as a PM, might scare off potential customers, or maybe loose customers altogether. I found in one of our past dealings, that you are very ungiving, when it comes to buyer/customer disputes. I know I made a couple of purchases elswhere, do to that fact. Yes, I'm still a little sore over, that rewards points issue.

[gk5717]

Corey,

Don't you thinking being so aggressive, and outing these guys without so much as a PM, might scare off potential customers, or maybe loose customers altogether. I found in one of our past dealings, that you are very ungiving, when it comes to buyer/customer disputes. I know I made a couple of purchases elswhere, do to that fact. Yes, I'm still a little sore over, that rewards points issue.

I agree with Fritzkreig, it,s "there way are the highway". I will never buy from Small Joes again. I really don,t see how they stay in business with that type of customer relations.
Gary

[popeye357]

Show me on the doll where Stinson touched you

[tmanthegreat]

Lets try to keep the conversation civil

Communication is key with these transactions on the board, so if you or the other person have a problem, you have to be willing PM or email one another and resolve it.

Also, as a rule when selling, one should NEVER send an item before it has been paid for. Obviously, this is what is done with an online business and it is what should be done here. (Smalljoes never sent me a GI Joe figure unless I had paid for it, for example )

Trades are more difficult to regulate, however, and should only be done if you "know" and trust the boardmember. I usually only trade with boardmembers with whom I've previously had a successful transaction.

There are two at fault here. Cornbreadfed has taken an item and not paid for it, which is bad form and ultimately theft. Corey, however, should not have let the item go until he got the payment.

Given this situation, I would hope that each involved party will be able to set up a dialogue and resolve the issue.

[coreystinson]

Show me on the doll where Stinson touched you

LOL!

Look, I'm giving a heads up to others on the board to help them avoid trade/sell nuisances, because in this case these were private party transactions (I will not be bringing non-paying business clients to this board, as I have 10 a week).

I'm not sure why anyone would hold a business to a different set of standards, relative to "a deal/agreement is a deal", than you would any other private party transactions, but that is clearly where this thread is headed. Not interested in debating it further.

[cornbreadfred]

Well let me chime in please. I NEVER got any item I did not pay for. Corey never sent me the item, because I guess he did not get the payment. Corey I wish you would have contacted me about this.

[coreystinson]

Yes, I'm still a little sore over, that rewards points issue.

The reward points system is a contractual legal agreement. If I operate it outside of the stated contract I am potentially opening myself up to a variety of legal complaints, especially considering the way that word gets around the 'net. For that reason, unless you are signed up and we have a logged record of that electronic signature, orders don't count toward the program. Sorry you can't see if from our side, but that's the way it is.