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JSI BLACK KNIGHTS TOMCAT

Post by thatf14guy » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:58 pm

THIS IS MY REVIEW OF THE LATEST RELEASE FROM JSI. THE BLACK KNIGHTS F-14A TOMCAT. TO BEGIN WITH THE PACKAGING IS THE SAME AS THE JOLLY ROGERS, NO NEW BOX ART. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE FIXED AS I CAN SEE THAT WOULD BE REALLY CONFUSING FOR THE RETAILERS IF ALL THE NEWLY RELEASE TOMCATS ARE IN THE OLD BOXES. AS FAR AS PACKAGING GOES, I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THE BOMBS WERE WRAPPED UP IN FOAM PAPER AND STORED AT THE TOP WITH THE MAIN FUSELAGE. ONE OF THE BOMBS' FINS WERE BROKEN AND I HAD TO GLUE IT BACK ON. AS FAR AS PUTTING IT TOGETHER, I HAD TO GLUE ALL THE ORDNANCE ON AS IF I DIDN'T THEY WOULD JUST FALL OFF.
THE LANDING GEAR ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. THE MAINS APPEAR TO BE THICKER. THE LITTLE TAB THAT GOES INTO THE FUSELAGE STILL MANAGES TO COME LOOSE PRETTY EASILY, AN ANNOYING PROBLEM.
THE PAINT OVERALL IS VERY NICE, NO SPOTS! THE BOMBS AND ORNANCE LOOK VERY REAL. I ALMOST DON'T WANT TO REPAINT THIS THING. BUT, THATS WHAT WE DO, SCHEME IS TOP SECRET!
THE LIGHTING SYSTEM SEEMS TO BE THE SAME AS THE FIRST RELEASED SPECIAL EDITION. I LIKE IT, BUT THEY COULD HAVE LITE THE OTHER LIGHTS THAT ARE ON THE PLANE, SO ITS KINDA HALF-ASS TO ME.
THE PARTS ARE EITHER TOO TIGHT OR TOO LOOSE, LIKE THE CANOPY, IT FEELS ALOT STIFFER THAN THE FIRST RELEASE, I ACTUALLY BROKE IT OFF OF THE HINGE TRYING TO OPEN IT. SO IF YOU BUY ONE, BE CAREFUL.
MY OVERALL GRADE FOR THIS PLANE, I WOULD GIVE IT AN A-. IT IS A BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME FLAWS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. AND O, YES THE RADAR WORKS, AND THE SIDE STEPS, STILL NO LUCK WITH THE LADDER THOUGH. BUT, IT IS NICE TO HAVE A RADAR DISH THAT ISN'T BROKEN AND WORKS.
I RECOMMEND GETTING ONE WHEN THEY ARE RELEASED, IT IS AN AMAZING LOOKING PIECE. IF JSI KEEPS THIS UP, I MIGHT GO BROKE BUYING ALL THEIR RELEASES.


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Post by tko211 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:03 pm

Here is my reivew... what he said.

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Post by thatf14guy » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:53 pm

definitely a step up!

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Post by dragon53 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:31 pm

THAT14GUY:

Thanks for the review. I've got one on preorder.
How accurate is the weapons payload?....I've read the weapons arrangement is incorrect.

Also, have you heard anything about the F-14 pilots that were supposed to be released in early 2010?

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Post by thatf14guy » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:47 pm

i say for what is considered to be a toy, its pretty accurate, still nothing about pilots.

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Post by DocTodd » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:51 pm

Thanks for the review.
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Post by Aviatornut.com » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:29 am

I still have one BLACK KNIGHTS F-14A TOMCAT left at the special price of $309 for the members on here. I had it sold but the buyer never paid or returned emails. Now is your chance! Email to aviatornut@cox.net

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Post by thatf14guy » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:17 pm

THANKS SO MUCH FOR HOOKING ME UP AVIATORNUT! I MIGHT TAKE THE OTHER ONE OFF YOUR HANDS IF I CAN SELL THIS REPAINT, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DIE WHEN YOU SEE THIS BAD BIRD ALL DONE! SO FAR IT LOOKS AWESOME!!!

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Post by firefighterpilot1 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:30 pm

dragon53 wrote:THAT14GUY:

Thanks for the review. I've got one on preorder.
How accurate is the weapons payload?....I've read the weapons arrangement is incorrect.

Also, have you heard anything about the F-14 pilots that were supposed to be released in early 2010?
The weapons load is accurate, it just has to be arranged in a certain way particularly with the GBU-24's. They can't be mounted side by side. Otherwise, I believe any other combination is possible. (although might not necessarily be a typical load out)

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Post by dragon53 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:28 pm

FIGHTERPILOT1:

Thanks for the info.
So does JSI include the proper racks/pallets for the LGBs to be mounted accurately?

Also, what was a typical weapons mix for a Bombcat on a real bombing mission?... I doubt it carried a Phoenix.

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Post by firefighterpilot1 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:52 pm

dragon53 wrote:FIGHTERPILOT1:

Thanks for the info.
So does JSI include the proper racks/pallets for the LGBs to be mounted accurately?

Also, what was a typical weapons mix for a Bombcat on a real bombing mission?... I doubt it carried a Phoenix.
Yes, JSI did make accurate bomb racks for this Tomcat. There is no "typical" weapons load, it all depends on the mission and even every squadron did things differently. GBU-12's were a very common bomb carried on the Tomcat. Modellers love to slap GBU-24's on Tomcats cause they're huge and look cool but in reality, it wasn't very common in a combat load out for the Tomcat. (like GBU-10,12,16 or even JDAMs)

as for the Phoenix, it's also a hit or miss thing. There really was no need for the Tomcat to carry any air to air later on in its career (lack of a threat in Afghanistan and Iraq) but sometimes they did, just to balance out the weight of the plane.

a couple of VF-154 pics for yah:

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0F-012.jpg

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0F-011.jpg

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Post by JoeS » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:44 am

Here's a thought what happened to all the Phoenix missiles they must have had in inventory once the Tomcat was decommissioned? At a $1m price tag each, as I'm led to believe....quite expensive to just scrap...or did they just have a free for all shoot out against F-4 drones by the end?

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Post by thatf14guy » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:47 am

JoeS wrote:Here's a thought what happened to all the Phoenix missiles they must have had in inventory once the Tomcat was decommissioned? At a $1m price tag each, as I'm led to believe....quite expensive to just scrap...or did they just have a free for all shoot out against F-4 drones by the end?
MAYBE THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 1/18 IRAN TOMCAT! :wink:

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Post by VMF115 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:56 am

Thanks for the pics...btw where you a NA or an NFO at one time?
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Post by firefighterpilot1 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:14 am

nope, never an NA or NFO. Just a military aviation enthusiast/ Tomcat aficionado

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Post by dragon53 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:00 am

FIREFIGHTERPILOT1:

Thanks for the info. To clarify it for me, does JSI includes the proper pallets so two LGBs can be carried correctly--diagonally?

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Post by firefighterpilot1 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:23 am

I don't have this JSI Tomcat so I don't know. As far as I can tell, it only has the bomb racks for the front pallets. Maybe someone who has the model can confirm this.

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F-14 bomb racks

Post by Jwcarpenter » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:55 am

That is correct, It only has the front Phoenix Pallets (bomb racks) that Sparrow Misssle is in the back. I have not really tried to take the sparrow off but it may be glued on.

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F-14 bomb racks

Post by Jwcarpenter » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:55 am

Duplicate post

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Post by thatf14guy » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:29 am

o its glued on pretty good, but i managed to ply it off with a butter knife.

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Post by dragon53 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:24 pm

JWCARPENTER:

So the JSI F-14 can only carry 2 LGBs side-by-side---which is inaccurate?

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Post by VMF115 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:36 pm

Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Let me hear your guns!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Your guns! Ack, ack, ack, ack, ack!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: [fires his airplane's guns] AHHHH!

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Post by Jwcarpenter » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:53 pm

Yes only side by side unless of course you modify it. The only pictures I have seen of the GBU 10's they are side by side. That GBU-24 is quite the monster but the pictures show those being loaded the same way. I do not claim any expertise in the subject but I would like to learn more, do you have any picture of the GBU's sitting differently than side by side?

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Post by firefighterpilot1 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:09 pm

You have pictures that show two GBU-24's loaded side by side? It MAY have been done in testing but if I recall correctly, it wasn't cleared to do it for combat.

I have only ever seen one GBU-24 mounted on an F-14 at a time.

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Post by thatf14guy » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:16 pm

first photos of our next tomcat project, as the scheme is still not ready to be revealed this is all you guys get for now, hopefully it will be done this weekend, but this one is looking amazing, i might decide to keep it. and yes its a bombcat!

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